August 7, 2011

He’s Leaving Fundamentalism

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him,” (Proverbs 26:4).

Once in a while we will hear about a preacher who has announced that he is “leaving Fundamentalism.” This is never good news, and it provokes several questions. It also calls for a response from those who are wiser.

The book of Proverbs contains in its twenty-sixth chapter two precepts in consecutive verses that seem to contradict each other. Verse 4 tells us not to answer a fool according to his folly, and verse 5 tells us to go ahead and answer a fool according to his folly. Of course these divinely-inspired wise sayings do not contradict each other but instead present two legitimate responses to a fool’s folly. One way to respond to folly is to reject the very premises upon which a fool’s statements are based, “lest thou also be like unto him.” The other way is to accept for argument’s sake the wrong premises of the fool and then turn his foolishness back on him. We find examples of both these approaches in the recorded words of Jesus responding to inquirers and critics. We also find both approaches in the New Testament epistles. The first approach, not to answer a fool according to his folly, is the right one for dealing with the “leaving-Fundamentalism” kind of foolishness.

Now nobody has a right to call someone else a fool. The Lord made this clear in Matthew 5:21-22. However, His point was not that there is no such thing as a fool. Very many Bible passages describe fools. He was saying that nobody has a right to say to his brother, “Thou fool,” because everybody plays the fool from time to time. Even the human writer of the Proverbs played the fool. So we do not have the right to belittle others by calling them fools. However we have occasions to rebuke folly and hope to recover people from it.

There is folly in “leaving Fundamentalism,” and we ought to examine it in the light of the wisdom of God. What shall we say to such an announcement, whether it comes from a preacher, from a young man entering the ministry, or from a Christian family leaving a church?

So What?
First of all, let us recognize the veiled pride in such an announcement, and respond by saying, “So what?” Why is it important for us all to know that this person is making such a change in his life and ministry? What great consequences will result from his change and his announcement, and why should the Christian world sit up and take notice? Perhaps we have made too much of the unhappy defections from the truth we have witnessed in the past. Perhaps some immature souls are attracted to such things because of the attention it brings to those who commit them. But defection from the truth is no new, cataclysmic event. It is as old as the story of Demas. Defections happen, but they do not hinder the truth.
For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth,” (2 Corinthians 13:8).

There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD,” (Proverbs 21:30).

The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect. The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations,” (Psalm 33:10-11).
Defections only hurt the defectors, and those who pay attention to them. If a believer for conscience sake must leave an organization, withdraw approval from a ministry or a minister, stop cooperating with somebody, or take some stand, let him simply do it, and not say things to cast reflection on Fundamentalism, a legitimate spiritual movement, “lest haply ye be found even to fight against God” (Acts 5:39). One man’s “leaving Fundamentalism” will do no harm to Fundamentalism itself.

Doing What?
We wonder what the brother means by saying he is “leaving Fundamentalism.” Although there is a human religious movement called the Fundamentalist, and also distinct movements legitimately labeled Fundamentalist, Fundamentalism itself is not a human movement, but rather a divine truth. A hundred years ago there was a grass-roots uprising in the evangelical American denominations to oppose the infiltration and influence of Liberal theology in their churches. Those who joined the protest were called Fundamentalists. They spoke out based on the premise that Christianity is not defined by a certain spirit, or by certain experiences, or by a certain way of living, or even by the teachings of Jesus as they apply to society, but rather by certain fundamental doctrines. These doctrines are the tenets of the Gospel, as spelled out in First Corinthians 15 and other New Testament scriptures. They are not only truths to be believed, but also the pillars on which Christianity stands. The Fundamentalist insists that the doctrines of the Gospel (including the authority of the Bible, the deity of Christ, His blood atonement, His bodily resurrection, and justification by faith alone) are fundamental to Christianity. In other words, without all of them, religion is not Christianity. Machen correctly contrasted Christianity and Liberalism. Something that is fundamental to something else is essential to it. Fundamentalism is the insistence that the fundamentals of the faith are fundamental to the faith.

It is the scriptural approach to dealing with heretics who have “crept in unawares,” according to Jude 3 and 4). We are to “earnestly contend” with them. We are to reject them from the Christian family, and refuse them Christian recognition (Titus 3:10-11). Evangelicals believe in the pillars of the Gospel, but not all of them insist that these doctrines are fundamental (essential) to the Gospel. Those who do are properly called Fundamentalists. Evangelicals who are willing to recognize Liberals as 
Christians are not Fundamentalists. Years ago “New Evangelicals” began saying that although they believe in the tenets of the Gospel, they recognize that some true Christians do not accept them all. This is why the New Evangelicalism refused the label “Fundamentalist.”

Men and movements are properly defined by their actions as well as their words. We are to “walk in the truth” (Second John 4 and Third John 3 and 4). Evangelicals who treat Liberals (who by definition reject certain of the fundamentals) as Christians by yoking with them in denominations, ministerial associations, evangelistic efforts, public declarations, and joint services are not Fundamentalists even if they will argue with you about it (2 Corinthians 6:14-18). Fundamentalism is the dividing of light from darkness, and is nothing but a good thing. Is that what our disillusioned brethren are leaving?

Now, as we have noted, there is a movement correctly labeled Fundamentalist. However it is not the monstrosity invented and mislabeled by academia and media. About twenty years ago, anti-religious teachers and writers began calling the conservative wing of any religion “fundamentalist.” The P.B.S. broadcast a series of programs on what they called “fundamentalism,” which according to these shows is basically a mental illness. They diagnosed Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, Hindu fundamentalism, and Islamic fundamentalism as a mindset of fear, suspicion, anti-intellectualism, hatred, and fanaticism. It is and was an unfair and untrue definition of an historic and specifically Christian movement in the United States. Now the media calls the violent radicals of Islam “fundamentalists.” In a strictly historic sense, there is no such thing as Islamic fundamentalism. Fundamentalism is a distinctly Christian movement. The new and popular way of defining Fundamentalism is intellectually dishonest.

It is also dishonest to define Fundamentalism by just one of its many fellowships or networks. The Fundamentalist movement of the early twentieth century has evolved and splintered into many diverse but truly fundamentalist movements. Some who think they are “leaving Fundamentalism” are actually disassociating themselves from one grouping of Fundamentalists. Their mistake is understandable because some such groups try to define Fundamentalism itself as their own group (see the warning in Luke 9:49-50). What are you saying when you say you are “leaving Fundamentalism”? Do you mean that you are quitting a fellowship, or renouncing a Bible college, or disagreeing with a church or ministry? If that is what you mean, just make the break you need to make (according to Ephesians 5:11), and don’t give the impression that you are leaving the truth of the Gospel and of separation to the Gospel. There is nothing wrong with Fundamentalism, although the men who have espoused it have been flawed, and the human movements that have promoted it have sometimes gone astray. The men and organizations you have defined as “Fundamentalism” are not what you are calling them. Fundamentalism is a far greater thing.

Too Bad!
Whatever the people are doing who are “leaving Fundamentalism,” it is bad. “Leaving Fundamentalism” inevitably means backing off from policies and principles that have characterized those who stood most faithfully for the Bible in our lifetime. The mainline denominations have not stood for the Bible or the Christian faith. Broad evangelicalism has not really stood for the Truth, although they work to spread it. Fundamentalism is contending for the faith, and good men have paid a great price to follow it. The ministries and crusades of men like Torrey, Riley, Shields, Ketchum, Jones, McIntire, Vick, and Clearwater ought to be honored and appreciated by all who love the truth. What a man is leaving if he leaves Fundamentalism is something he should not leave.

In some cases he is rejecting separatism in some form of its application. Let everyone beware who considers abandoning Biblical separation. It is a scriptural principle, and walking away from any policy that has been based upon it should not be done without considerable study and seeking of counsel. Just because a non-separatist challenges separatist policies does not mean that his criticisms are valid. Our spiritual forefathers had amazing insights, and none of their policies or practices should be discarded lightly.

In some cases he is rejecting personal separation while holding on to some degree of ecclesiastical separation. Men who are doing this want to call themselves “historic fundamentalists,” pointing out that the original Fundamentalists fought over such cardinal doctrines as the Virgin Birth, the Bodily Resurrection, and the Inerrancy of Scripture, and not over such comparatively small issues as dress, music, drink, amusements, and Bible versions. They like to label those who do fuss over these issues “old-time fundamentalists,” using the label in a condescending manner. They like to label issues of personal separation (holy living) as “non-issues” because the Fundamentalists of 1910-1930 never wrote about them. But the scripture says that there are kinds of behavior which “become [are becoming or suitable to] sound doctrine” (review the epistle to Titus). Early Fundamentalists did not argue for modest dress, but what did their women wear? They did not denounce sensual music in church, but what kind of music did they use? They did not make an issue over English translations, but what version of the Bible did most of them use almost all the time? Because they did not preach sermons on these issues does not mean that the original Fundamentalists would have gone along with the horrible changes in practice that the past hundred years have brought into the churches. And these smaller issues actually do relate to the great issues, and are legitimate matters of concern.

In some cases the defector is parting from evidence of carnality in some of the Fundamentalists he has known. But Fundamentalism should not be rejected because Fundamentalists need revival. Tell us what you mean. Surely you do not mean that you are giving up truth because men who have taught it have been found to be less than spiritual all the time. Many Fundamentalists are sincere and holy people, although some have been found to be less than so. Fundamentalism should not be abandoned just because Fundamentalists need revival.

In some cases, the one making the change has come to view certain issues in ways contrary to his former views. But he is not really “leaving Fundamentalism.” However, he may be making the big mistake of abandoning the wisdom of the godly of former days and jumping to conclusions that are wrong. Paul warned the Corinthians not to take lightly the issue of male and female hair-length and head-covering because the change in policy some wanted to make was contrary to the “custom” of the “churches of God” (1 Corinthians 11:1-16). We are not to “despise [belittle]…the church of God” (1 Corinthians 11:17-34) or its customs. Give the views of Fundamentalists and the practices of the Fundamentalist churches the benefit of the doubt.

Fundamentalism has a wonderful future because it is based on the truth of the Bible. Nobody should leave it now for any reason. If Bible-loving people will yield their lives to the truths they believe, we will see a revival sweeping the family of God all over the world. Don’t leave. Kneel and pray with us as we seek the blessing and power of the God of our fathers!

Dr. Rick Flanders, Evangelist
Revival Ministries

Site Publisher Addendum:
This article by Dr. Flanders could not have been more timely. On Friday (8/5) at Sharper Iron (SI) an article was published on SI’s front page. The publication of this article ends the discussion and removes any lingering doubt that SI is hostile toward historic, balanced Fundamentalism. Following is a brief excerpt from one pastor commenting on the SI article.
“I am still struggling to see the publishable value of this article….If you are going to leave the ‘IFB’ orbit, just go ahead and do it. But do it quickly. Do whatever it is that you think God has called you to do. However, leaving in this manner makes you look a bit ugly and even desirous to take as many people with you as possible. Go do the missiological work that you have done and for which you have trained, but please stop writing to us, if you are no longer among us.” (David Marriott)
For more reaction from the SI thread and commentary please continue to the Sharper Iron: In the Iron Skillet blog for, “SI is a Fundamentalist Place?” The Façade & Veneer is Stripped Away

UPDATE (8/8 10am)
Aaron Blumer links to the Iron Skillet blog article above from the controversial Steve Davis article at SI. Please continue to “SI is a Fundamentalist Place?” The Façade & Veneer is Stripped Away for my reaction to his comment at and link from SI.


  1. Thanks for the timely article! Bro. Flanders brings out appropriate questions and principles in this battle for the truth.
    We have heard for far too long that "things are wrong with fundamentalism." No, things are not wrong with fundamentalism, for fundamentalism is the expression of the truth of the Scriptures. Problems with people who claim to be fundamentalists, yes, there have always been those who have in one way or another besmirched the truths of Scriptures. And as they do and continue down that path they cease to be fundamentalists, whether they hold to the label or not. Just because someone claims a label that doesn't mean that that is what they are.
    When I was a child growing up on military bases I watched with awe and wonder the military flight demonstration teams (the Navy's Blue Angels and the Air Force's Thunderbirds). For days afterwards my friends and I would be "Blue Angels" pilots on our bikes out in front of our homes. We would attempt all sorts of "maneuvers" in the two dimensional realm of the road. But were we "Blue Angels"? Not even close. While we could maneuver around in the X and Y coordinates, we could never expand into the Z coordinate (thus, being three dimensional)like the real Blue Angels did. We were on bikes not in F-4 Phantoms (I know I am dating myself). It didn't matter whether we painted our bikes to match the Blue Angels color scheme. It didn't matter if we put on matching flight suits and helmets. It didn't matter if we proclaimed ourselves from the rooftops that we were the Blue Angels, everyone who observed us knew we were not.
    A fundamentalist is not a fundamentalist because he says he is. A fundamentalist is a fundamentalist because we see the fundamentals believed, adhered to, upheld, lived, defended by that person.

  2. Thanks Brian, it is sure that the fruit clearly declares what type of roots it has. If only we in fundamentalism were more concerned with being effective (cold or hot) rather than with being tolerant of error (lukewarm). I'd say that leaving the fundamentals of the faith is an excellent way to become spiritually good for nothing.

    Jim F.

  3. "So what?" is exactly right. I don't need to know if you are "leaving" fundamentalism. The strange thing is that what he would leave over are issue he would not claim are essential to fundamentalism.

    By the way, the fundamentalists used the American Standard more than any as best as I can tell. I was looking through the volumes and matching it with verses.


  4. Very astute Tony, the observation of these men who are leaving fundamentalism. They all say they still believe the fundamentals (however they may define them) yet find that evangelicalism is more palatable. It is the doctrine of separation that bugs them, just like it bugged previous generations of believers who moved on. They bemoan the "mean spirited" fundamentalist who, they claim, is more divisive than accomodating. Hmmm, some of those so-called mean spirited men walked in rather large circles in their day (thinking of Dr. Bob Jr. specifically, since he is one who is often criticized, read Cornbread and Caviar along with books on the history of fundamentalism to see that walk). It is their desire for acceptance of men that drives them. I had rather be driven by an acceptance before God, whom I will stand before one day and give an account, and be persona non gratia to those around me.

  5. Men:

    You both make excellent, spot on observations. There is wide spread open disdain for biblical separation among those departing fundamentalism. Imo, one of the driving forces is that to have their fellowship with the non-separatist evangelicals (conservative and new) they have to play down or abandon the application of separation principles because if they don't the evangelicals will not accept them. This is why starting with the more high profile in FBcircles (Doran, Bauder, Olson) increasingly allow for, tolerate, ignore or excuse doctrinal abberations, ecumenical compromise and worldliness of their new friends in evangelicalism.

    Furthermore, it is Calvinism and Lordship Salvation that is the magnetic attraction.

    Bottom line, it appears the angry former yf's are morphing in part into what the evangelicals are for the sake of being accepted by them.

    Of course, instead of just making the transition to evangelicals they lurk and post at sites like SI to besmirch Fundamentalism with the broad brush- with the SI leadership's enthusiastic cooperation, encouragement and participation.


  6. Lou:

    Overall good article. Dr. Flanders has a very optimistic view of the future for Fundamentalism. I do not share his view as the Scriptures indicate that the church age ends with apostasy, not affinity for the truth (II Thess. 2:3-7; II Tim. 3:1-13; 4:3-4). When the Son of man cometh will he find the faith on the earth? Luke 18:8.

    Again, good article exposing the foolishness of the compromiser who feels obligated to burn his bridges in public!

    Tod Brainard

  7. Bro. Brainard, yes, apostasy is here and will only get worse, but God always has His remnant. Dr. Ed Nelson gave a message along these lines at the National FBF conference this past June.
    I consider it no surprise that we are seeing those departing from fundamentalism, indeed it is to be expected and we must continue to send a "certain sound" against the compromise of the Truth.

  8. Another timely article in my life and church life. There are small things in my church that are bothering my conscience, and they appear to be doctrinal and linked to ecclesiastical and personal separation. When your leadership starts quoting covenant theology men on certain passages it gives you pause. When you try to point out that children's club material is from Covenant theology source- and you are thought of as uncaring because we want it for the modern bible version it carries. *sighs* My decision time is closing in upon me.

  9. I am praying for you, LG. Fidelity to God, His Word, His commands is easy on paper but is fraught with people misunderstanding what you are doing. It is never pleasant having to leave people, ministries you have held dear but it becomes necessary at times.

  10. Pastor Brainard:

    Thanks for stopping by and sharing your insights.


  11. Brian:

    That "certain sound" will help those out there who may be confused by the new day, new wave of new evangelical like compromise making inroads into IFB circles.

    The sad part is that we have men who insist they are committed to separatist principles who are doing the most to negate the application of those principles.


  12. Btw, I was thinking about the burning of bridges in public. Imo, this is more than burning bridges. Instead of just going off into evangelicalism they do what they can to influence others to follow them down the pathway of compromise.


  13. Lou:

    Have you visited the comments section of Steve Davis's article at SI? Very interesting overview by Mike Harding. I would like to hear back from you on your take.

    Tod Brainard

  14. Tod:

    I have read the entire thread. Certain portions several times. FWIW, I am preparing a new series on the "pseudo" fundamentalist SI for my SI In The Iron Skillet blog.

    On your other question please send me an email to


  15. Thank you to Brian for the prayers. Also, thanks to everyone for the flip side of the issue those who say they are fundamental, but have moved positions. Those who aren't fundamental and then say they are leaving fundamentalism. It leads to the same place- leading others astray. I'm so glad I found this blog. It has been a source of strength.

    So keep sounding out the defense!

  16. LG:

    I am encouraged to know that my blog has been a blessing to you. There are many articles here on a variety of topics for your consideration. You might want to direct people in your sphere of influence if you think they too might be encouraged by what they find here.

    Kind regards,