Showing posts with label NIU Interview. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NIU Interview. Show all posts

August 16, 2012

Questions Answered on the Changes at NIU: An Insider’s Report, Final

Previously, we posted Part One, Part Two and Part Three for your consideration. Today, we conclude the Q&A series with former faculty member Dr. Dana Everson on the change in trajectory of NIU, the former Northland Baptist Bible College.

Q20. Can you comment on the morale of the staff, the students?

Some staff (mainly those who have left) are disappointed with some of the changes. Others question some of the changes, but are reluctant to speak up or leave the institution for various reasons. Some are happily engaged and on board with Matt Olson. The students that most strongly objected to the “new” Northland have mostly not returned. I know several who have transferred to other schools. Some students have justified remaining because they are close to graduation or because their parents felt they should finish at NIU and make the best of it.

Q21. Are you aware of the many friends that have distanced themselves from NIU? Can you articulate why that is in your opinion?

I have heard various reports. One caution to those who would ask questions of NIU administration:
Be sure you are not relying simply on tradition, but on solid Biblical principles for expressing your concerns. 
NIU is big right now on “sola scriptura” almost as if the gospel is the ONLY thing that matters. Of COURSE the gospel is the central message of the ministry, but I like Dr. Bob Jones III’s series on Phil. 1:27 in BJU chapels [see below] last school year in which he reminds us that the gospel includes the redemption story of Christ and the immediate conduct related to the gospel. I consider this an excellent, thought-provoking message.

Q22. NIU says they still use the KJV from the chapel and classroom podiums? Is that observably true? Is the translation issue a non issue to NIU administration?

Yes, it was used regularly from the pulpit most of the time. On occasion, we would hear the ESV, or NKJV quoted. In staff meetings, the ESV and occasionally other versions were quoted.

Q23. What type of student is attracted to NIU compared to previous years?
NIU Student's FaceBook Profile

In my last 2-3 years, there seemed to be a growing interest in missions. Many sincere, God-seeking students came hoping to find God’s will for the promptings they sensed. As far as personal standards, I can only speak empirically: It seemed to me that the percentage of students coming in having already accepted CCM was growing. In my informal conversations with colleagues in other Christian colleges, this seemed to be true for them in their situations as well.

I wonder if many good-willed students come to NIU based on the reputation of the college from the Les Ollila years, but I don’t know. I do know that there are some fine teachers and staff members there who love God, love the Bible, and truly want to further the ministry of local churches by helping to train students. I applaud their efforts; but this makes it even more of a concern to me where the NIU ship is heading.

Closing Thoughts from our Guest Dr. Dana Everson:
I was and am still more concerned about WHY and HOW Northland has come to their conclusions about music than exactly WHERE they stand. There are always going to be slight differences between this school and that, this church and that, and so on. However, if a church or institution begins to accept the idea that music is amoral (or, waters down the definition of the term amoral), then eventually, anything goes. NIU’s board and ADMIN have the legal right to set their standards anywhere they wish, but in my opinion, they have changed the rules during the game and at best have created confusion by HOW they have made their changes.

I trust it’s not too late to encourage everyone associated with NIU to ask good questions of the leadership. Compare the responses with unchanging Scriptural principles. Then be willing to do what is right even if it costs you something.


Dr. Dana Everson

Site Publisher’s Close: 
This concludes the Interview series with Dr. Dana Everson. For anyone who might be interested in finding out what Dr. Everson believes and teaches about music, his Northland doctoral dissertation has been put into book form Sound Roots and is available from his son’s ministry Bible Revival Ministries.

Related Reading:
And if we embrace the philosophy that it’s just about the gospel we can put our arms around about every wrong, unbecoming Christian behavior in all the world. We can put our stamp of approval on counterfeit Christianity.”

August 15, 2012

Questions Answered on the Changes at NIU: An Insider’s Report, Part Three

Previously, we posted Part One and Part Two of this Q&A series for your consideration. Today, we continue with more questions and answers surrounding various aspects of the change in trajectory of NIU, the former Northland Baptist Bible College.

Q16. Was NIU wrong to give demerits to students who broke rules then (under the former demerit system) when those actions then would be completely acceptable today?

I’m not sure that actions warranting demerits are considered any less offensive today, but the penalties are not enforced in the same way. I understand that the whole Student Life office is being reduced, possibly dismantled. Not sure why.

Q17. How about students who were dismissed because they listened to music they weren’t supposed to? They have never tried to rescue the large numbers of alumni who bought into what we were taught in earlier years; do you believe they have a plan to reach out to and/or help graduates who were misinformed years ago as students?

I am not aware of any students dismissed because of their music choices.

Q18. Is NIU changing for numbers? Is NIU forced to do change because of new accreditation standards?

Possibly the accreditation issue affected some choices in one case.  After I was told in late January 2011 that the music degree program was dissolved (the decision had been made over Christmas break), a few weeks later a whole new plan emerged for continuing the music degrees.  My wife and I had earlier raised the question about how the accrediting organization would view such a dismantling. It may be (though I was never told) that the accreditation agreement would not ALLOW such a change if the college was going to continue their qualification for accreditation. So, they may have been forced into a corner and therefore changed their earlier plans to reduce or eliminate the degree program.

Q19. What church did you attend and is this church like the philosophy represented at NIU? Are all the churches the students serve in like the new position of NIU?

We attended Faith Baptist in Pembine, Wisconsin for about 6 years. The music there was conservative and well-balanced. The last 6 years we attended Family Baptist in Kingsford, Michigan. The music there was conservative and unaffected by NIUs gradual changes. It was during those years that some of Northland’s policies began to change. I don’t think ALL of the churches in NIU’s orbit agree with EVERYTHING NIU does, but most appreciate much of the college’s ministry. Almost everyone is struggling with questions about appropriate music, and some are questioning other areas which seem to reflect a more “casual” Christianity if I could use that word.

Please continue to Part 4, the final in this series.

For related reading see,

NIU’s Convergence with Evangelicalism: What Does it Mean for Impressionable Students?
NIU has opened its chapel and classrooms to evangelicals. Because NIU endorses evangelicals its students are being exposed to and encouraged to embrace doctrinal errors such as: Calvinism, Lordship Salvation and non-cessationism. NIU students will learn to disregard biblical principles of separation, tolerate and accept ecumenical compromise and worldly methods of ministry, which evangelicals teach and practice. Some of these students will become New Evangelicals because of what they are being influenced to embrace at NIU today.

Has NIU Backtracked on Its Decision to Dissolve the Music Program?

August 14, 2012

Questions Answered on the Changes at NIU: An Insider’s Report, Part Two

Previously, we posted Part One of this Q&A for your consideration. Today, we continue with more questions and answers surrounding various aspects of the change in trajectory of NIU, the former Northland Baptist Bible College.

Q10. Were you specifically told of a new direction or emphasis for music including a requirement to change accordingly?

NIU administrators were always challenging us to try new and creative approaches to fulfilling the college mission, but it seems to me that only in the last 2-3 years or so that I was there that the previously held student standards began to change more dramatically. New, more relaxed guidelines for dress and hair, loosening of some dorm restrictions, changing the word “rules” to “expectations,” the elimination of the demerit system, a ...

This seemed to coincide with Matt Olson’s declarations in chapel and in faculty meetings that “we will not separate over music,” his implication that the gospel is the ONLY really important thing, and his personal list of something like 30 issues in Fundamentalism that he did not agree with. I don’t know if he ever specifically listed all these issues (and some of these probably did need some revision; perhaps such things as certain practical dress code issues for students in the COLD north weather, for example).

Although several “music philosophy” meetings were held in the fall of 2010, my personal impression was that the direction of music standards and policies were already pretty much decided; the “meetings” seemed to me to be political protection so that ADMIN could always fall back and say they “consulted” the faculty as new directions were being considered.

I realize I am judging motives here, so I want to be careful, but I also want to say that during those music philosophy meetings I was very firm, very strong in my challenges to the president and the ADMIN (1) to take the high road, (2) to take a longer look at the ramifications of any loosening of music standards, (3) and to take more time to reconsider the counsel of conservative musicians as opposed to relying so heavily (in my opinion) on the input from students.

New directions were more set in place than discussed before being implemented. ADMIN of course has a certain right to make decisions, but in the area of music, I believed that most of the counsel the music department offered was not followed.

Q11. Why doesn’t the administration clarify their position in open, unvarnished terms?

Matt has stated clearly in chapels and staff meetings that we will no longer separate over music.” Of course that is still unclear, but it suggests that NIU is APPLYING their principles differently if they aren’t actually changing their philosophy. I don’t think he is willing to draw specific lines about this style or that group…I think he is very “customer conscious” and does not want to offend current students or potential students. That’s my opinion.

Q12. Many churches are increasingly disappointed with the level of music style sung from NIU’s traveling music team. Are you aware of this and do you have a comment regarding under whose directive and/or responsibility it was to train the traveling singers?

Be careful to distinguish between the ministry teams (which were primarily trained by folks outside the music dept) and the Northern Lights (which was trained and prepared via the music dept). The ministry teams were hand-picked for their personalities, spirituality, and good attitudes, not necessarily for their musical skills. AFTER the ministry teams were chosen, they had some coaching from music faculty who tried to help them prepare some musical selections. This is an important difference that perhaps many pastors and churches do not completely understand. The Northern Lights was a team which focused on musical ministry and was much more intensely rehearsed and groomed for traveling as a music team. Of course each year there are strengths and weaknesses as personnel changes, but overall, their musical choices (over the four different directors they had during my years at Northland) were technically well done, balanced in variety, and spiritually driven. They made some wonderful CD recordings into the mid-2000’s.

Q13. Was the music department dismantled for practical reasons or for philosophical differences?

Around Thanksgiving 2010, the administration called a meeting of all fine arts students (essentially music and speech students) to inform them that discussions were ongoing concerning music philosophy and the exciting prospects of strengthening the music area by making it more “global” in its methods. Dr. and Mrs. Suiter (head of Fine Arts) and Shelly Beeman (voice instructor) had resigned by then, and I believe the administration was using the opportunity to begin making some changes they had been contemplating. In other words, 50% of the full time music faculty resigned and left after fall semester, and the college was trying to regroup and put a positive look on the situation. Publicly, Dr. Suiter left because he didn’t feel qualified to go in the “global” direction that Matt seemed to want to go. In my opinion, the Suiters did indeed leave because they could not agree philosophically with the direction that Matt desired to go.

Miss Beeman coached voice students by online/Skype in order to help them complete the school year. To my knowledge, Shelly was not full time and was not regularly present on campus for the Winter 2011 semester.  I believe she returned to campus briefly a few times to assist some students with their voice recitals. But the other two music faculty members (and 1-2 other part time folks) and I took up the slack where we could.
Hearing some of the news occasionally from campus this school year, I am sure that I would be actively looking for another employment/ministry situation by this time in the school year.
Q14. NIU seems to be portraying a praise and worship style of music; is this true? If the pulpit ministry is the leading indicator of the strength of any given Bible school’s emphasis (from my perspective), and the laid back style in which the platform is presented (no ties or suit coats but turtle necks, choruses, no pulpit, discussion or conversational style of presenting a message, etc) do you see this?

This is the tough part to explain. Possibly Northland chapels have always been a little less formal than other schools because of their strong camp background/ministry.

Q15. If they believe that everything they are doing today is correct, have they made any steps to apologize to those who were there 10 or 15 years ago?

Indirectly, I believe that one of the top 2 or 3 issues regarding music choices has to do with a new view of associations. I don’t know where this is going to finally settle, but it is going to be an issue probably in many other areas besides music. In my opinion, if this is unsettled, they do not have to feel obligated to “apologize” until it IS settled.


Please continue to Part Three of this on-going series.

Site Publishers Commentary: There are colleges where students once were taught a conservative philosophy of music that focused on uplifting the Lord and not the performer or the personal listening tastes of the hearers. Today they have become an environment where music has no moral quality, style is supposedly unaddressed in the New Testament, and institutional standards are a hindrance. NIU is on that track!

For related reading see,

Is NIU UnChanged? NIU Students Engage the Issues, Part One

Is NIU UnChanged? NIU Students Engage the Issues, Part Two

August 13, 2012

Questions Answered on the Changes at NIU: An Insider’s Report, Part One

Earlier this year I was contacted by a former faculty member of Northland International University (NIU).  I refer to Dr. Dana Everson (identity added 8/17/12). Dr. Everson shared his appreciation for a series of articles I produced on what has become of NIU. He, furthermore, offered to share with me his first hand view and opinion of the changes that Matt Olson brought to the ministry of NIU. Today, we begin with the first of a four part interview. Questions surrounding various aspects of the change in trajectory of NIU, the former Northland Baptist Bible College, will be answered by our guest.

OPEN: Is there anything you would like to share before we delve into the questions?
Brother Lou, my responses are given as best as I can frame them. If I am unclear or sound out of line on something, please ask me about it. I will try to clarify. Also, I am still constantly evaluating my own choices and philosophies to try to refine and improve where I have been wrong. I am willing to admit where I have been wrong, and stand to be corrected if I have been mistaken in my facts. I know there are good people and good students at Northland. In some cases I find it difficult to separate my personal preferences from true Biblical principles, but I believe you will be able to do some filtering when needed. I don’t know how much this will help, but that is my sincere hope. I think if we don’t have truth we don’t have anything.

Q1. Could you detail how NIU is different today than when you first arrived?
What I sensed when I arrived as an employee: A sense of teamwork/unity; much of this I am sure, was built around Les Ollila’s teaching and example…everyone from custodians to ADMIN seemed to be focused on living a “clean” life and doing whatever they could to train young people to serve God.

Q2. Did Les Ollila approve of these changes to the best of your knowledge? (Everyone wants to know this answer!)
I am almost as much in the dark about this as people outside the college. According to his public letter, nothing has changed. [Is Northland Changing? A Chancellors Perspective from Dr. Les Ollila] He is probably not as involved in the day-to-day workings of the details of the institution as he was 8-9 years ago, but last school year’s (2010-2011) events are so large it seems odd to me that he wouldn’t be aware of the issues. Matt Olson has repeatedly stated both in staff meetings and in chapel that he and Doc O’s hearts beat as one in the ministry. I attempted to bring up this question to Les Ollila via written communication last spring (2011). He responded to some other concerns I raised, but never answered this one. I can only assume that he is either very much out of touch with some changes at Northland or that he does indeed support Matt’s policies.
Site Publisher Commentary: What tires objective observers is letters like those from Les Ollila and Matt Olson where they used subjective imprecise language to quell any concerns. Complete details of what has transpired within the administration and on campus were obscured for the sake of the new philosophy, trajectory and agenda intended for NIU students.

Q3. Is NIU starting a music publishing companyWhat style of music will they be publishing in your opinion, if true?
I know nothing of plans to start a music publishing company. If they are planning to do so, I was never part of the discussion.

Q4. There is some confusion about what level of toleration the administration has toward CCM music and ministries that have a progressive music style. Is there a connection between the change in their music position and the friendship with some churches or different organizations that they have developed recently?
About three years ago, some emails and some informal conversations between music faculty and revealed that at least two members of the administration could not rule out the possibility of “Christian rap” music becoming an acceptable medium of the future. That’s not to say that this style was being pushed or planned, but it was a surprise to the music faculty that such a possibility would even be considered no matter how distant in the future.

I believe strongly that the local church should be a creative center of worship and ministry. I also believe that this creativity can be accomplished within good standards of music.
There are surely thousands of new songs which could still be composed and thousands of fresh and creative arrangements written WITHOUT resorting to the Rock clichés.
I was saved when I was in my 4th year of college as music major at Michigan State University. I had also attended a junior college and the University of Michigan before becoming a believer around Christmas of 1972. Prior to that (and with help and encouragement of my parents) I paid most of my way through college by playing and singing in nightclubs, barrooms, restaurants, dance halls, and high school gyms.

Soon after I became a believer, I began to question the environment. A few months after I was saved, I went to work for the summer months of 1973 as a performer with a marching/jazz band for Disney in Anaheim. It was during that summer work that I began to question not only the environment but also the music itself. I was baptized at a church in Anaheim, and came back to Michigan State in the fall as a changed person.

I tell you all this because many of my Christian musician friends have never been on the “other side of the tracks.” Most have not been in the environment of the barroom/dance hall and do not know the sights, sounds, smells, tastes, feelings of that environment first hand which is supported by and associated with certain styles of music (although with all that is displayed on TV/Internet/cable few people are so isolated so as to avoid exposure).

I could have probably continued to this day to be a weekend pop/jazz musician for supplementary income just as many of my music educator friends from college years still do, but the Lord gradually weaned me away from that lifestyle in general.

Q5. Who is the number one advisor to Matt Olson on music and association?
(Since the music department seems to not be highly valued as once before) I really don’t know who he might consult on any regular basis. Possibly one of the current younger music faculty members who previously had taught some music courses part time. Some changes made which we (members of the fall 2010 music faculty) resisted included:
(1) Reduction and eventual removal of the organ from chapel services. Ostensibly it was removed because there was no one to play it. This was not true as of Fall 2010. There were at least two qualified music faculty members who could and did play organ for chapel services.

(2) According to the president, the use of the organ is not consistent with the missions’ emphasis of the college (what mission fields use organ, so why emphasize its use to our mission-minded students?).

(3) Changes in the Music Primer (short handbook on music policies for students) which removed examples of acceptable/unacceptable music.

(4) Removal of the music department chairman’s supervision of chapel music. This was done, according to the president, to take pressure off of the music department if people should criticize NIU for some of its music choices. The president would assume more direct responsibility of music style choices.

Q6. What exactly is the dorm music policy and who enforces what? Is this reasonable?
I emailed you a very general statement from the NIU website FAQ section, which attempts to put the music policy in positive terms. Of course I agree with the major points, but I do not know if there is a deeper or more specific written standard like the music primer of several years ago. When I first came to Northland Baptist Bible College, there was a music check during the first or second week of the semester in which music faculty sat in the dorm lobbies and screened the recordings of all the students. We spent hours sorting out acceptable, not-acceptable, and not-sure selections. Since the rise of the iPod and all the other computerized and electronic media, which can save hundreds of selections on a single device, it became impossible to screen the music. So, the Student Life office asked the music department for help in composing a Music Primer which was an attempt to give guidelines/limits for student use of music.

Q7. Would you still be at NIU if you were not asked to leave?
I thought I might stay another school year or so, but I could see that my days were numbered. There were at least five reasons I didn’t resign:
(1) I thought I still had a measure of credibility with the ADMIN and could still possibly influence some of their decisions.

(2) I knew of several faculty and staff members (both in music and other departments) who were also questioning the choices/philosophy changes and thought that they, too, might speak up and have some influence.

(3) I was feeling tremendous financial pressure (as many folks are) and was hesitant to move on without some sense of where I would go next.

(4) I looked at our students and saw a great need to continue to urge them to “take the high road” in their personal music theology choices. I believed that when the conservative music faculty members were gone they would be eventually replaced by less conservative ones.

(5) Several music philosophy meetings for staff and students were INITIATED BY ADMIN in the Fall of 2010 for the purpose of defining and constructing a music statement for NIU seemed to give hope that the minds of leadership were not yet made up. I was fully expecting that we would continue to have further discussions/debates/information meetings when we returned after Christmas break, but as one administrator told me, there were just too many differences to be able to come to a unified conclusion.

Also, to my surprise, when I returned in January, I was told that the music department was going to be reduced to a small fraction of its size because of economic pressures on the college. I was told I would not be needed in the Fall of 2011. I was also told that ADMIN was aware of my concerns over the direction of the college and that they believed that I “would not be happy at Northland.” I winced at that, but accepted their situation and my new “opportunity to expand.”

A few weeks later, ADMIN called a meeting of fine art students once again and announced to the students that some exciting new plans were being worked out for the music dept and that there would indeed be three (of the previous four) degrees offered in the future. (Music education was dropped.)
This seemed deceitful and political to me, and I voiced serious concerns about it. After I was reprimanded, I said almost nothing again publicly.
Q8. Has NIU moved to an amoral music positionLyrics aside, is music neutral?
This is a question that Dr. Horn brought up at a music philosophy discussion meeting. He apparently was very concerned that Northland had always taken a pretty clear position that music is moral. He seemed to be questioning whether the new thinking about music was heading in the direction of amorality, so he indicated that the college should make up its mind. If they were going to modify the earlier position they at least should come out and say it.

Q9. Did Steve Pettit’s style of music in relationship to his Sovereign Grace affect the NIU position positively or negatively?
I can only guess. There are so many conservative and fundamental churches and ministries that accept (somewhat innocently or ignorantly) some of the “milder” Sovereign Grace music and see no problem with associations that it is hard to tell how much influence any single person or ministry might have on Matt Olson or other leaders. It seems like Tim Jordan has taken some similar direction and he MAY have influenced Matt.
Site Publisher Commentary: It has been seen that Steve Pettit’s Sovereign Grace music (SGM) appears to have had an alarming effect on some of the young men who once apprenticed in ministry with Steve. These have gone far beyond milder SGM in their ministries. One wonders if Steve might have some regret for having introduced them to the “milder” form of SGM. 

End of Part One, please continue to Part Two of this series.

For further reading see,
“Our Children Learn Not Only By What We Teach Them, But By What We Tolerate.”
According to NIU alumni Dr. Les Ollila said that over and over to the student body. With the change in philosophy and methods at NIU a different kind of teaching and wide ranging tolerance is being learned by impressionable students.
NIU Music Department to be Dissolved
There are colleges where students once were taught a conservative philosophy of music that focused on uplifting the Lord and not the performer or the personal listening tastes of the hearers. Today they have become an environment where music has no moral quality, style is supposedly unaddressed in the New Testament, and institutional standards are a hindrance. Is it possible NIU is on that track?
Dr. Bob Jones, III: The Faith of the Gospel, Part 4
There is the saving gospel, which introduces us to the faith of the gospel. And if we embrace the philosophy that it’s just about the gospel we can put our arms around about every wrong, unbecoming Christian behavior in all the world.”

August 10, 2012

Questions Answered on the Changes at NIU: An Insiders Report

Earlier this year I was contacted by a former faculty member of Northland International University (NIU). This man shared his appreciation for a series of articles I produced on the disconcerting changes of philosophy and practice at NIU. He, furthermore, offered to share with me his first hand observations and opinion of the changes that NIU President Dr. Matt Olson was introducing at the school. Beginning on Monday I will post the first of a multi-part interview series. Our interviewee answers a broad cross section of questions surrounding various changes in philosophy and trajectory of NIU, the former Northland Baptist Bible College.

For a primer to the Q&A series I recommend the January 2011 article, Is NIU “UnChanged?” The Northland Baptist Bible College Position Statement on Contemporary Issues in Christianity. The article is the most read of any at IDOTG. It is thoroughly documented in its depiction of events at NIU. For related reading see, NIU: Let's Get First Hand on the Facts.

 LM