“ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN” by Dr. Rick Flanders
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Dr. Rick Flanders |
A site originally devoted to a discussion of the Lordship Salvation interpretation of the Gospel.
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“The King James Only crowd likes to boast that schools like Pensacola Christian College and West Coast Baptist College are thriving, and that may be true. These colleges, however, are not representative of fundamentalist institutions, and their prosperity does not do anything to help normal fundamentalism.” (Emphasis added.)Herein, Dr. Bauder grievously errs. To say that Pensacola and West Coast are not “representative of fundamentalist institutions” redefines, once again, fundamentalism. Neither school denies nor do they adulterate any point of the classical fundamentalist credo. Their doctrinal statements are readily available for anyone’s inspection. In addition, both schools practice personal and ecclesiastical separation, the hallmark of fundamentalism. The fact that these schools specify allegiance to a specific Greek text in no way diminishes their fundamentalist credentials. In addition, both schools have a strong fundamentalist heritage. In the case of Pensacola, it has flourished within the sphere of fundamentalism for decades. Many fundamentalist churches recommend both Pensacola and Bob Jones as options within the fundamentalist realm. Dr. Bauder’s needlessly divisive statement lacks both theological and historical support.
Succinctly stated, Dr. Bauder’s declaration is both irresponsible and indefensible.While Dr. Bauder has presented much good analytical material in his article—material that deserves thoughtful consideration—he has, once again, marred his work with an unnecessary rant against Christian people—fellow fundamentalists—who love and serve the Lord. He seems bent on making enemies where he could have found friends, and, in so doing, he repeats an error plaguing fundamentalism from its inception—an error which increasingly alienates intelligent young men and women from the fundamentalist movement.
Bauder’s position differs markedly from the strong stance of R.V. Clearaters. “Doc,” as he was called, had no trouble “calling a spade and spade.” Bauder struggles with that…. For reasons known only to himself, Bauder mocks those whose doctrinal concerns include bibliology, the blood atonement and sovereignty/free will.Kevin Bauder: It Won’t Fly With Those of Us Who Know
“If Kevin desires to take Dr. Clearwaters venerable institution a different direction from the founder, he should do so without pretending to be the guardian of the legacy. I knew Doc well enough to know that he would not be at all happy with the direction of Central Seminary under Bauder’s leading. It’s bad enough that his school is headed in a decidedly leftward direction. Please, Dr. Bauder, don’t make it any worse by pretending some affinity with one of the greatest separatist Christians of the last century.”Genuine Integrity Demands a Simple Admission
What troubles [me], however, is the nagging feeling that Jeff Straub was attempting to convey more than just mere admiration for stands well taken. His not-so-subtle mention that both of these pastors are entrenched in the SBC appears to lend tacit approval to the denominational organization…. Dr. Clearwaters was not one to speak well of the “denominational machine.” Genuine integrity demands a simple admission from institutional leadership that they are moving from the separatist principles of their founders.Related Reading:
Kevin, while reading your articles I have observed an inordinate affection towards pseudo-intellectual teaching, and a disdain for old-fashioned, confrontational Bible preaching. Make no mistake, old fashioned, confrontational Bible preaching is exactly why I founded Central Seminary. My burden was to train men with an air-tight understanding of the Scriptures, with the ability to stand in pulpits across the land and preach, “thus saith the Lord,” with the desire to start churches and win souls to Christ. To the contrary, I did not start the school over which you [Bauder] preside, for men to flounder in unbelief, for them to wonder for decades where they stand, or for them to be given to counseling, teaching and academic idolatry. I often told the men I was training, “We use the mind here, but we do not worship it.” Dr. Bauder, all given appearances seem to indicate that you are intentionally trying to lead those who follow your writings…away from the testimony upon which [Central Seminary] was founded and into the compromising orbit of protestant evangelicalism.Piedmont/TTU: A Predictable Pattern of Mergers With Only One Survivor
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Brethren, While we sorrow not as others which have no hope, we mourn the loss of our brother in arms for the cause of Christ. Clay Nuttall went home to be with the Lord this afternoon, as reported by his son, Dennis. We have shared some pictures of Clay on Donna's Facebook page, mostly from IBFNA Conferences and ask for your continued prayers for Ruth and the family.
Pastor Chick Dear
Site Publisher's Comment: Dr. Nuttall's voice for the Biblical hermeneutic will be sorely missed in Bible believing circles. You may peruse 64 of Dr. Nuttall's latetst articles, reproduced at IDOTG, Clay Nuttall, The Shepherd's Staff. For Dr. Nuttall's complete online articles see, The Shepherd's Staff.
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Recently an insightful evangelist I know
published a blog based on an informal survey of his friends
regarding the
strengths and weaknesses of the independent Baptist churches over the years.
Those responding to his survey named several strong points exhibited by the
independent Baptists, and also criticized them for a number of serious
weaknesses. The evangelist said that the survey responses influenced his own
thinking, and led him to make his own evaluation of the people and the churches
with which he has spent his life serving Jesus Christ. His conclusion is that
the principal strength of the independent Baptists has been their allegiance to
the authority of the Bible. He thinks that their primary weakness has been
neglecting the ministry of the Holy Spirit. They have done well by emphasizing
the Word, and have faltered by de-emphasizing the Spirit. As I indicated, this
writer is intelligent and insightful. He goes on to identify four problems that
have been produced among Baptist fundamentalists because of their unnecessary
and wrongful neglect of the Holy Spirit:Dr. Rick Flanders
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Socialists have long accused
religion of offering “a pie in the sky by and by” as a way of distracting
and
pacifying those who suffer under capitalism, thus keeping them from rising up
in insurrection. The phrase (which has
moved into our general conversation in reference to things other than religion)
comes from a folk song, titled “The Preacher and the Slave,” which was written
by a radical revolutionary named Joe Hill a century ago. He was echoing the charge of Karl Marx that “religion
is the opium of the people.” The far
Left has long regarded religion in general, and the church in particular, as
supporting the interests of the rich (who, they say, control religion) by
mollifying the discontent of workers using vain promises of heavenly rewards
for those who will not make trouble for capitalists. The ironic fact, however, is that it is socialism,
and not Christianity, that promises rewards it never delivers.Dr. Rick Flanders
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I have written the revised & expanded edition of In Defense of the Gospel to provide the biblical answers to Lordship Salvation. There are areas where one must balance soul liberty and Christian charity and agree to respect different views. The gospel, however, is not one of them. The works based theology of Lordship Salvation and its advocates must be vigorously debated, and biblically resisted. May God protect unsuspecting believers and the lost from the egregious errors of Lordship Salvation.
Lou Martuneac