tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post4412859187115408944..comments2024-02-27T03:28:22.684-06:00Comments on In Defense of the Gospel: Archival Series: Has Converging With Evangelicals Been a Dangerous and Failed Experiment?Lou Martuneachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-20663319187575587302013-01-27T08:12:52.602-06:002013-01-27T08:12:52.602-06:00There's more money in compromise.
I knew Pick...There's more money in compromise.<br /><br />I knew Pickering - was saved at his church and discipled by him. <br /><br />In the end the very groups/people that he helped and taught turned on him. Why? Did he change? Did he modify the Word of God to fit the times?<br /><br />No. <br /><br />There's just more money and popularity in accommodating to the popular culture. <br /><br />The GARBC is a pseudo baptist group now. <br /><br />The church's and seminaries that stood firm - gone, closed, changed, renamed.<br /><br />In 1 generation this has all come to pass.<br /><br />If the Lord tarries? In 2 more years? <br /><br />His old church in Toledo will be . . . . I don't even want to think about it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-54841769045901018352013-01-25T16:55:05.302-06:002013-01-25T16:55:05.302-06:00"Dr. Priest's statement is concise , accu..."<i>Dr. Priest's statement is concise , accurate, and powerful</i>."<br /><br />That is why I often bring it back for a fresh reminder. And Kevin Bauder has not done one thing to negate the analysis that Dr. Priest gave those three years ago. In fact, Bauder has doubled-down since then.<br /><br /><br />LMLou Martuneachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-14421151988850666272013-01-25T15:05:18.071-06:002013-01-25T15:05:18.071-06:00Dr. Priest's statement is concise , accurate,...Dr. Priest's statement is concise , accurate, and powerful. I keep returning to it to help keep balance in my thinking on these troubling issues. Lord, come quickly!Dana Eversonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-4622004251624956142013-01-24T18:15:04.163-06:002013-01-24T18:15:04.163-06:00AS a graduate of both Pillsbury and Central Semina...AS a graduate of both Pillsbury and Central Seminary, I am not shocked that Central and some of the other schools have moved away from militant position. The current leaders of once solid schools never have been involved in the "fights" that the old leaders, such as Dr. Clearwaters, were involved with. Dr. Clearwaters used to teach about the liberals in the Northern Baptist Convention "laid" their "eggs" of liberalism in the NBC schools. Maybe the New Evangelicals have done the same as the as the liberals of the old NBC. I was told once that Dr. Mclauglin did not want to take a militant stand when he was a pastor in Michigan, but was basically forced to by Dr. Harry Love. The new generation of "fundamentalists" inherited schools which were once solid, but now have turned against militancy. Very sad! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-2553447247790265882013-01-24T09:36:04.670-06:002013-01-24T09:36:04.670-06:00I believe this is a good place to remind readers o...I believe this is a good place to remind readers of the following statement, which is an excerpt from Dr. Gerald Priest who was reacting to Kevin Bauder’s (3/10) article *<i>Let’s Get Clear on This</i>.<br /><br />“Kevin has been quite <i>lavish in his praise of conservative evangelicals</i> while castigating so-called fundamentalists. Yet he has spent very little time warning us about the pitfalls and problems of conservative evangelicalism…. Like Kevin, I would give credit to the conservative evangelicals where credit is due. I say ‘Amen’ to everything they have done well in defense of the gospel of Christ. But not at the expense of <i>discrediting fundamentalism</i> for the valiant battles it has fought against some of the very things many conservative evangelicals are espousing <i>which compromise the gospel</i>, yet which many of the current generation do not seem to take very seriously.”<br /><br /><br />LM<br /><br />Related Reading:<br />*<a href="http://indefenseofthegospel.blogspot.com/2010/03/lets-get-crystal-clear-on-this-response.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Let’s Get Clear “CRYSTAL” Clear on This</i></a><br /><br /><br />Lou Martuneachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-30262181728043383712013-01-24T08:43:52.962-06:002013-01-24T08:43:52.962-06:00Alex/Brian:
Thanks for sharing some thoughts her...Alex/Brian: <br /><br />Thanks for sharing some thoughts here.<br /><br />IMO, the likelihood any of the younger men in particular, like Andy Naselli, who is among the star-struck over Piper, are even recoverable any longer. Almost any current/new, odd, aberrant teaching Piper puts out, these younger men take it as if it is new revelation. Not out of the realm of possibility with Piper being one of the leading lights for the modern day Charismatic movement: signs and wonders.<br /><br />Doran, Bauder, Olson and Jordan- even if they they can still recognize any of the dangers in the teaching and ministry of John Piper, aren’t about to raise any serious words of caution about or advise brethren to <i>avoid</i> Piper (Rom. 16:17; 2 Thess. 3:6, 14-15). They’d be run out of the T4G, TGC movement they have heaped “<i>lavish praise</i>” on, embraced and obviously want to be accepted by.<br /><br /><br />Lou<br />Lou Martuneachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-70286921536422690792013-01-22T13:23:40.597-06:002013-01-22T13:23:40.597-06:00Thanks Lou for bringing this back with the updated...Thanks Lou for bringing this back with the updated information. One would hope and pray that the praise of personalities will give way to submission to the principles and precepts of the Word of God.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924581374605153929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-20133213787511698622013-01-22T08:55:21.329-06:002013-01-22T08:55:21.329-06:00The praise of Piper by Bauder and Doran at this po...The praise of Piper by Bauder and Doran at this point where at least strong qualifiers ought to be released are inexplicable in light of their claim to historic fundamentalism. There are ample numbers of Evangelicals who have sense enough to identify Piper's exegetical/hermeneutical negligence and injurious forms of his novel and bad theology and the inconsistent or contradictory logic in hus propositions at critical pounts that they know to be fearless in pointing out and warning against the damage Piper can inflict.Alex A. Guggenheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534710796711749227noreply@blogger.com