tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post116030610560263222..comments2024-02-27T03:28:22.684-06:00Comments on In Defense of the Gospel: Impossible Decision: John 16:7-11Lou Martuneachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-42307898666229672362007-11-26T23:36:00.000-06:002007-11-26T23:36:00.000-06:00Hi Linda:I'm happy you are benefitting from my art...Hi Linda:<BR/><BR/>I'm happy you are benefitting from my articles.<BR/><BR/>Stories such as the one about your ate husband are not out of the ordinary. Sometimes hard to know what to make of these.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I do not agree with Hodges/Wilkin on this. Ryrie does not agree with that either. I think James 2 is clear in that there should be some evidence of a genuine conversion.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comments,<BR/><BR/><BR/>LouLou Martuneachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-38162012905881688522007-11-26T19:20:00.000-06:002007-11-26T19:20:00.000-06:00Hi Lou:You will remember me from the Baptist Board...Hi Lou:<BR/><BR/>You will remember me from the Baptist Board forum--I'm Linda64 and I've been following your posts there. Your articles are excellent. <BR/><BR/>You wrote: "Repentance is a change of mind, some say change of heart. IMO, genuine repentance should result in a changed life. I emphasize should because I don’t think it a good idea to begin measuring what has been done I the heart by what is done on the outside. Different people grow and evidence growth in different ways and over different periods of time. Then, of course, you have carnality and back sliding to deal with.<BR/><BR/>That said, if a professing Christian never showed any genuine evidence of a genuine conversion I would have questions about whether or not there was a genuine conversion."<BR/><BR/>It's the last statement you made here is what I am talking about. I experienced that personally in my own life--my late husband made a profession of faith but continued living in sin until he drank himself to death in October, 2000. I understand that Christians grow spiritually in different ways and that carnality does exist in the life of a believer---but it's the "professing" believer who NEVER shows ANY fruit of a changed life (which Bible repentance should produce) of whom I speak. There are some who teach (like Hodges & Wilkin) that one can be saved (born again) and show no fruit of repentance or even flat out deny Christ.<BR/><BR/>God bless,<BR/>LindaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-41230800866508320602007-11-26T17:47:00.000-06:002007-11-26T17:47:00.000-06:00Linda:Thanks for the comment.I link to Zeller’s si...Linda:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment.<BR/><BR/>I link to Zeller’s site because his research and documentation of the various doctrinal errors coming from MacArthur, Hodges, Wilkin and others is penetrating.<BR/><BR/>You wrote, “<I>Doesn't Bible repentance also mean a turning to God and a ‘change of mind’ toward God that results in a ‘change of life’</I>?”<BR/><BR/>Repentance is one of the most misunderstood doctrines in the Bible and is the crux of debate in the LS controversy. Men in the FG camp differ on their definition of repentance. Hodges and the “<I>Crossless</I>” advocates have, of course, badly erred on this doctrine, as they do so many others.<BR/><BR/>Repentance is a change of mind, some say change of heart. IMO, genuine repentance <B>should</B> result in a changed life. I emphasize should because I don’t think it a good idea to begin measuring what has been done I the heart by what is done on the outside. Different people grow and evidence growth in different ways and over different periods of time. Then, of course, you have carnality and back sliding to deal with.<BR/><BR/>That said, if a professing Christian never showed any genuine evidence of a genuine conversion I would have questions about whether or not there was a genuine conversion.<BR/><BR/>You wrote, “<I>I’m not a Calvinist--I don’t believe that regeneration precedes salvation. Regeneration happens at the moment a sinner is born again, when he trusts in the finished work of Christ on the cross of Calvary</I>.”<BR/><BR/>Good note there. Zeller is excellent on this as well.<BR/><BR/>Please read my article, <I><B><A HREF="http://indefenseofthegospel.blogspot.com/2006/11/order-of-salvation.html" REL="nofollow">Lordship’s Out of Order Salvation</A></B></I><BR/><BR/><BR/>LMLou Martuneachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30991724.post-75582436927356996512007-11-26T13:28:00.000-06:002007-11-26T13:28:00.000-06:00Doesn't Bible repentance also mean a turning to Go...Doesn't Bible repentance also mean a turning to God and a "change of mind" toward God that results in a "change of life"? I believe that repentance is a supernatural work of God which convicts the sinner of his rebellion, who then "turns to God from sin". (1 Thess. 1:9) I don't understand this "unbelief". I've seen so many "professing" Christians sitting in churches with a "false assurance" of salvation because they said some "sinner's prayer" years before.<BR/><BR/>I'm not a Calvinist--I don't believe that regeneration precedes salvation. Regeneration happens at the moment a sinner is born again, when he trusts in the finished work of Christ on the cross of Calvary. I don't believe in Lordship Salvation, but I do believe that salvation will result in a change of life. Also, I do not believe, as John MacArthur teaches, that the believer has only one nature, not two. For that strange teaching, check out the Middletown Bible Church website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com